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11/07/07 20:47
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 		 #146748 - hobby...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik,

you once said to me that you NEVER do electronics as hobby.
If you would, you would perhaps see the difference. Also, please, mind the possibilities stemming from the geographical position of both me and Yashveer.

If I go to our local "stone" shop to buy some parts (and believe me, only a single one is left today in what we call a capital), 99.9% of them are 5V. I then can buy them at a mail service, where about 97.5% of parts are 5V. Then, I can of course buy them from Farnell and similar, or import them from USA (namely Digikey and maybe Mouser), or even some of the wholesaler/distributors are willing to sell a small amount for the hobbyists (usually they insist on selling at least a tube, which is one of the reasons why I put the 'V51RD2 in each and every of my hobby stuff - I had to buy 3 tubes of them back then); but no of these options is really fit to a hobbyist budget.

The devkit is fine as long as you intend to build exactly ONE device. Most of the hobbyists don't want to stop there...

SKK 0.02, I admit it's not too much... :-)


JW

PS. This is also why monitors are a valid option for the hobbyists. Call them cheap if you want, they indeed are.


List of 67 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Low cost 8051 Board For Domestic Use            01/01/70 00:00      
   Try AT89C51RD2 or AT89C51ED2.            01/01/70 00:00      
      This could be the best place to start with            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re:            01/01/70 00:00      
            Cool!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      AT89C51??            01/01/70 00:00      
         first steps            01/01/70 00:00      
            MCP101            01/01/70 00:00      
               datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
               look at the datasheet of the microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hardware connections for P89V51RD2            01/01/70 00:00      
               Please explain one by one what you need to do.            01/01/70 00:00      
               this way            01/01/70 00:00      
                  you got it!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     dont forget the Boot Loader part of the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                        what bootloader "part of the job"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           there is nothing to do there - here-            01/01/70 00:00      
                              he does NOT need to make a "Boot Loader"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     more            01/01/70 00:00      
                        True :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                           reset pushbutton            01/01/70 00:00      
                           or it can be this way            01/01/70 00:00      
   If you want to buy a BOARD            01/01/70 00:00      
   RST through MCP101 and DTR of RS232            01/01/70 00:00      
      this is not necessary...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not necessary            01/01/70 00:00      
            not for 'V'            01/01/70 00:00      
            NoTouch            01/01/70 00:00      
               That brings us here...            01/01/70 00:00      
   I do not know what you imply by "low cost"            01/01/70 00:00      
      for "home" and hobby use, though...            01/01/70 00:00      
         WHY?            01/01/70 00:00      
            hobby...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I doubt that            01/01/70 00:00      
                  OK, then maybe 95.3%            01/01/70 00:00      
                     but let's talk about the rest            01/01/70 00:00      
                     We once had a selection of shops ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      $99 is no low cost            01/01/70 00:00      
         low cost is a relative term            01/01/70 00:00      
            Everything in this world is relative            01/01/70 00:00      
               many hobbyist use SILabs devboards            01/01/70 00:00      
                  many hobbyist use SILabs devboards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     check with Mouser            01/01/70 00:00      
                        or Digi-Key            01/01/70 00:00      
                           DigiKey doesn't seem to stock 'em            01/01/70 00:00      
                           @#$%! double post! sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
      Low cost....aaaa....            01/01/70 00:00      
         comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            beginners and amateurs            01/01/70 00:00      
               :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's not rocket science            01/01/70 00:00      
                     what about the cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that can vary widely            01/01/70 00:00      
                           which?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              look at the available peripherals            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 last you raised this issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    that\'s only half the story            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       The connector on the SiLabs boards is female            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          to some people, that's ambiguous            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Stop yapping and start reading!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                When I ask the question ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Why do you even care            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I care because it has to work.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I knew I had one laying around            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                That is not how I see it            01/01/70 00:00      
   P89V51RD2 system            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      

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