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11/06/07 11:48
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#146667 - first steps
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Yashveer Singh said:
AT89C51ED2 PDIL-40 package is obsolete
AT89C51RD2 - the package doesnt seem to be suitable; also it costs $8.4 a piece(that's not a big problem). A PDIP package would really be great.

There are sockets into which a PLCC packaged chip fits and have 2.54mm (100 mil) spacing through-hole pins. Grab one.

Alternatively, get P89V51RD2; FLIP's counterpart for that one is called FlashMagic.

Yashveer Singh said:
Flip Software tool by Atmel expects a hex file; SDCC generates ihx file. Would this be a problem??

No. It's the same format. You can simply rename .ihx into .hex if you want.

Yashveer Singh said:
Alternatively, is there any other free C-compiler that will generate a hex file? I dont expect my code size to be too big!

There are "free" demoversions of more commercial compilers (and IDEs), usually space limited. Look for Keil which is "THE '51 standard", but beware, you can't use a too small FLASH chip, as the generated hexfile starts at a certain offset. The 'RD2s are fine, though.

Yashveer Singh said:
This looks so much simpler than what i have seen before for AT89S51!!!!
http://www.mytutorialcafe.com/Microcont...089S51.htm
What you have shown there are no line drivers, no transistors, nothing!!

Beware, the cheap solutions tend to be problematic. There are zillions of desperate posts "does not work for me". It may, but also it may not; and you are most probably not in the situation to be able to debug it in case of problems.

If you invest to one of the 'RD2s, a RS232 level convertor (such as MAX232 and similar), a reset IC (! yes, you DO need it, again, it's for to be SURE that it will work - try looking for xx1232, or MCP101, or xx7705) and a decent power source (perhaps based on 7805), you not only have higher chances of getting things working at once, but also a much more powerful chip to start with.

$0.02

JW


List of 67 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Low cost 8051 Board For Domestic Use            01/01/70 00:00      
   Try AT89C51RD2 or AT89C51ED2.            01/01/70 00:00      
      This could be the best place to start with            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re:            01/01/70 00:00      
            Cool!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      AT89C51??            01/01/70 00:00      
         first steps            01/01/70 00:00      
            MCP101            01/01/70 00:00      
               datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
               look at the datasheet of the microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hardware connections for P89V51RD2            01/01/70 00:00      
               Please explain one by one what you need to do.            01/01/70 00:00      
               this way            01/01/70 00:00      
                  you got it!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     dont forget the Boot Loader part of the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                        what bootloader "part of the job"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           there is nothing to do there - here-            01/01/70 00:00      
                              he does NOT need to make a "Boot Loader"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     more            01/01/70 00:00      
                        True :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                           reset pushbutton            01/01/70 00:00      
                           or it can be this way            01/01/70 00:00      
   If you want to buy a BOARD            01/01/70 00:00      
   RST through MCP101 and DTR of RS232            01/01/70 00:00      
      this is not necessary...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not necessary            01/01/70 00:00      
            not for 'V'            01/01/70 00:00      
            NoTouch            01/01/70 00:00      
               That brings us here...            01/01/70 00:00      
   I do not know what you imply by "low cost"            01/01/70 00:00      
      for "home" and hobby use, though...            01/01/70 00:00      
         WHY?            01/01/70 00:00      
            hobby...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I doubt that            01/01/70 00:00      
                  OK, then maybe 95.3%            01/01/70 00:00      
                     but let's talk about the rest            01/01/70 00:00      
                     We once had a selection of shops ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      $99 is no low cost            01/01/70 00:00      
         low cost is a relative term            01/01/70 00:00      
            Everything in this world is relative            01/01/70 00:00      
               many hobbyist use SILabs devboards            01/01/70 00:00      
                  many hobbyist use SILabs devboards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     check with Mouser            01/01/70 00:00      
                        or Digi-Key            01/01/70 00:00      
                           DigiKey doesn't seem to stock 'em            01/01/70 00:00      
                           @#$%! double post! sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
      Low cost....aaaa....            01/01/70 00:00      
         comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            beginners and amateurs            01/01/70 00:00      
               :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's not rocket science            01/01/70 00:00      
                     what about the cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that can vary widely            01/01/70 00:00      
                           which?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              look at the available peripherals            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 last you raised this issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    that\'s only half the story            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       The connector on the SiLabs boards is female            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          to some people, that's ambiguous            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Stop yapping and start reading!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                When I ask the question ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Why do you even care            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I care because it has to work.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I knew I had one laying around            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                That is not how I see it            01/01/70 00:00      
   P89V51RD2 system            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      

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