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03/27/06 20:39
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#113245 - Not exactly
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I don't wish to make this an attack on Peter, as he did what most people here seem to do, namely to respond with, "You don't need to know that!" and little else. The O/P didn't say which "derivate" he intended to use, probably because he wasn't using a "derivate" but, rather, was using the "real McCoy" though that didn't arise until his later post. The question posed was not about the AT89C51ED2 or any other 805x device, or even any other MCU at all, but a general question about microcontrollers and microprocessors in general, which anybody should have been able to answer.

Cyrille Ngassam said:

I want to train myself with adresses decoding from an embedded systems.

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Please look on the data sheet of the derivate, which you want to use (e.g. AT89C51ED2).

Then you find the address ranges for the code Flash, for the io-ports and peripherals (SFRs), for the direct and indirect accessible SRAM and for the external mapped SRAM / data EEPROM.

All address decoding was already done inside the chip.

Peter
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Not only is this answer inapplicable, but patently false. While the device in question decodes internal resources as all MCU's do, it does no external bus decoding, which is what the O/P asked about. Since he intended his question to be generic, he didn't specify that it was the demultiplexed address bus, particularly since his interests extend to other processor types.

Kai Klass, after some time, did, in fact pick up on that, and respond to the original question.

If you don't like the opinions I spout, then you're welcome to ignore them. I don't think it's fair to ask Craig to do a bunch of work just because you don't want to do that. I think his effort would better be put into a spell-checker.

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TopicAuthorDate
How to decoder the memory address?            01/01/70 00:00      
   decoding already inside            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's not fair!            01/01/70 00:00      
         ???            01/01/70 00:00      
            Maybe unfair was the wrong way to put it            01/01/70 00:00      
               why Flash esoteric ???            01/01/70 00:00      
                  So ... where's the decoding?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     decoding in practice            01/01/70 00:00      
                        This is not a personal attack, Peter            01/01/70 00:00      
                           actually            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I don't disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 hardly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    what he asked was:            01/01/70 00:00      
                           R. E            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Not exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  Sorry Richard I was a little more            01/01/70 00:00      
                              there is an ignore function available            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 that is how I currently do it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    drop the flat mode, go threaded            01/01/70 00:00      
   There's a way, once you've decided            01/01/70 00:00      
   The first step            01/01/70 00:00      
      Requirements, a most important variable            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'm not a machine            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE: How to decoder the memory address?            01/01/70 00:00      
      it's bible time            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't look bad each others please            01/01/70 00:00      
      74HC138            01/01/70 00:00      
      why do you refuse to read "the bible"            01/01/70 00:00      
         What chapter will answer his question?            01/01/70 00:00      
            I never answer that            01/01/70 00:00      
               Who's joy? Yours??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  places "the bible"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Just answer the question            01/01/70 00:00      
                        then why did you not give him an answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           because I'm just as bad as you, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not this time            01/01/70 00:00      
            You're right, and he knows it            01/01/70 00:00      
      Interesting link            01/01/70 00:00      
      Example            01/01/70 00:00      
      questions, guesses and comments            01/01/70 00:00      
         Now, was that so hard?            01/01/70 00:00      
            silliness was never here            01/01/70 00:00      
               Well, perhaps not, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  So when?            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: Don't look bad each others please            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't look bad each others please            01/01/70 00:00      
   I do not understand            01/01/70 00:00      
   Addressing 101            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why using this processor pins left...?            01/01/70 00:00      
      What chips?            01/01/70 00:00      
      What is the problem?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Explaination            01/01/70 00:00      
            I just remembered 22V10            01/01/70 00:00      
            Be careful            01/01/70 00:00      
               How many address buses do you see?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  On the busses            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The only purpose was...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The question has been well addressed            01/01/70 00:00      

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