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03/25/06 15:30
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#113066 - That's not fair!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Wait a minute, here ... It's not fair to tell him he's using the wrong device or taking the wrong approach when he hasn't defined either one yet.

This is an exercise encountered in every logic circuits (EE 101) course, though, and he should complete the course before getting into this. Now, if there are published notes on how to do this, then perhaps he should be given the opportunity to examine them.

He's been scored for poorly/inadequately described requirements. That's a common failure. However, he's stated he wants information that will let him learn how to decode addresses. So many stupid, Stupid, STUPID applications with the 805x are published every year because people haven't learned how to do this. It's not rocket-science, though you'd think so, as so few designs that appear in this forum use it. It's true, if you have to add lots of external I/O hardware, you're probably using the wrong part, but if a guy wants to learn, and isn't planning to go to production, he should certainly learn how this stuff works.

Yes, there are parts that do the address decoding for you, but the reason there are so many variations on the original 805x is because there are so many integrated peripherals. If you like one, then you use it, but if you're trying to learn the 8052, keep in mind that it doesn't have address decoding, and doesn't have ADC/DAC hardware, and doesn't have a lot of XRAM, or, for that matter, a lot of code memory. If a fellow wants to learn how to build an "expanded" system on the 8052, then let's let him do that before we slap him down for doing what someone else wouldn't dom and, instead, help him learn what he wants to learn.

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How to decoder the memory address?            01/01/70 00:00      
   decoding already inside            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's not fair!            01/01/70 00:00      
         ???            01/01/70 00:00      
            Maybe unfair was the wrong way to put it            01/01/70 00:00      
               why Flash esoteric ???            01/01/70 00:00      
                  So ... where's the decoding?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     decoding in practice            01/01/70 00:00      
                        This is not a personal attack, Peter            01/01/70 00:00      
                           actually            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I don't disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 hardly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    what he asked was:            01/01/70 00:00      
                           R. E            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Not exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  Sorry Richard I was a little more            01/01/70 00:00      
                              there is an ignore function available            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 that is how I currently do it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    drop the flat mode, go threaded            01/01/70 00:00      
   There's a way, once you've decided            01/01/70 00:00      
   The first step            01/01/70 00:00      
      Requirements, a most important variable            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'm not a machine            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE: How to decoder the memory address?            01/01/70 00:00      
      it's bible time            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't look bad each others please            01/01/70 00:00      
      74HC138            01/01/70 00:00      
      why do you refuse to read "the bible"            01/01/70 00:00      
         What chapter will answer his question?            01/01/70 00:00      
            I never answer that            01/01/70 00:00      
               Who's joy? Yours??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  places "the bible"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Just answer the question            01/01/70 00:00      
                        then why did you not give him an answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           because I'm just as bad as you, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not this time            01/01/70 00:00      
            You're right, and he knows it            01/01/70 00:00      
      Interesting link            01/01/70 00:00      
      Example            01/01/70 00:00      
      questions, guesses and comments            01/01/70 00:00      
         Now, was that so hard?            01/01/70 00:00      
            silliness was never here            01/01/70 00:00      
               Well, perhaps not, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  So when?            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: Don't look bad each others please            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't look bad each others please            01/01/70 00:00      
   I do not understand            01/01/70 00:00      
   Addressing 101            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why using this processor pins left...?            01/01/70 00:00      
      What chips?            01/01/70 00:00      
      What is the problem?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Explaination            01/01/70 00:00      
            I just remembered 22V10            01/01/70 00:00      
            Be careful            01/01/70 00:00      
               How many address buses do you see?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  On the busses            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The only purpose was...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The question has been well addressed            01/01/70 00:00      

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