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06/05/06 20:35
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#117796 - No, i DO not know, That does not mean I
Responding to: ???'s previous message
We had this argument a year or more ago, and you KNOW I prefer monitors
No, I DO not know, That does not mean I did not know, but at our age it is legal to forget.

I prefer monitors for their real-time capabilities over ICE's
I do not know of any "real-time capabilities " that ICEs do not have.

I'm sure you've noticed that JTAG isn't capable of reporting what's going on in dozens of registers in real-time, so you have to hook up your logic analyzer and go to work. I'd rather do that with a monitor than a $50K or $5 piece of hardware that contains someone else's compromises.
I know of no "monitor" than can "report what's going on in dozens of registers in real-time" one characteristic of a monitor is overhead. However, some of the very expensive ICE variants (which I have used when working for "rich" companies) gives you what youn describe and does it in real time.

Moving data into RAM is handy if you modify it several times before writing it back into FLASH. I'll grant you that one, but that is rarely a time critical operation.

Erik

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8051 optimal PCB setup            01/01/70 00:00      
   program ROM?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I object to the language            01/01/70 00:00      
   Simplest            01/01/70 00:00      
   simplest SBC schematic:            01/01/70 00:00      
   Try AT89S52            01/01/70 00:00      
   in addition            01/01/70 00:00      
      whyy not go all the way            01/01/70 00:00      
         P89C668?            01/01/70 00:00      
             but the 66x has (from memory)            01/01/70 00:00      
               So what's V mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  why 'V' I do not know, but they have a V            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Soft Ice            01/01/70 00:00      
                     V, + and -            01/01/70 00:00      
                        in those rare cases            01/01/70 00:00      
                  V vs C            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hasn't anybody produced a part with ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            yes            01/01/70 00:00      
               Sadly, it's not a "part"            01/01/70 00:00      
                  a faulty sort            01/01/70 00:00      
                     still no "normal" part            01/01/70 00:00      
                        it also wouldn't take much to build one            01/01/70 00:00      
                           it's a rare case            01/01/70 00:00      
                              True, fer shurr ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 all my designs is one of 2            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I was just discussing that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       ROM RAM swap            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          are you trolling for a food-fight again?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             No, i DO not know, That does not mean I            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Just a minute ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   any 51's?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      No ... I was referring to UBICOM            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         easy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            you'd think they'd do it, then            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               they do            01/01/70 00:00      
            the fattest '51            01/01/70 00:00      
               the fattest '51            01/01/70 00:00      
                  dunno            01/01/70 00:00      

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