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03/14/06 21:43
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#112174 - How can I forward to other interface?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Thanks guys for the info, I try to answere the questions:

First of all, we are dealing with a development of a real ASIC not an FPGA, or to be more exact we are giving the spec. to a company who will construct the ASIC using an 8051 IP core.

The more features we want the bigger the ASIC will.

Smith, it is so: we are planning to use this chip for different applications for some very simple one where we will have a simple software (that can be written without any advanced debug possibilities) and also for quite complicated things where we need some debug power.
And for example if you sell 1000 chip for applications where you don't realy need an UART and a JTAG which raises the costs of the ASIC chip by 1$ than you wasted already 1000$.

One more question Andy (it will sound silly):
The only thing I have a problem with that I don't have the FlashMon51 source code therfore I can't imagine how it is sending the data to the external-uart.

Could it be so that this monitor program simple sends data bits (which would originaly be placed to the UART buffer) to the P1 port?
If it is so, than in the IP core would it be possible simply forward these data bits for example to an SPI buffer? Or do I underestand the whole concept wrong?

And one last (also sily) question just to be sure:
In the Keil pages it is written that to use FlashMon51 the MCU should support In-Application Programmable (IAP) Flash memory. I guess ISP is not the same than IAP. That means IAP has to be suppeted by the core? Is there any specification how should be an IAP implemented on the IP core (or at least the ROM commands?) I couldn't find anything on the net.

Thanks a lot again for your answeres.

Greetings

Attila

List of 49 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
MONITOR for ASIC with 8051 IP core            01/01/70 00:00      
   replacing serial by xxx            01/01/70 00:00      
   JTAG?            01/01/70 00:00      
      should have come to me            01/01/70 00:00      
      JTAG money talks...            01/01/70 00:00      
         shome mishtake sureley            01/01/70 00:00      
         External UART            01/01/70 00:00      
      JTAG != debug port            01/01/70 00:00      
         Debug via JTAG            01/01/70 00:00      
            Does it make sense?            01/01/70 00:00      
            debugging            01/01/70 00:00      
               a readable version of the above            01/01/70 00:00      
                  coments            01/01/70 00:00      
                     won't we make it a separate thread?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        screw the wiki, who but you have been th            01/01/70 00:00      
   ASIC as in ASIC or FPGA?            01/01/70 00:00      
      How can I forward to other interface?            01/01/70 00:00      
         stick an IIC port on            01/01/70 00:00      
         what is not clear?            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: replacing setial by xxx            01/01/70 00:00      
               von Neumann RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I get it...I'll have to play with FlashM            01/01/70 00:00      
                     IAP, ISP, von Neumann and others            01/01/70 00:00      
                        STOP, ! it is NOT            01/01/70 00:00      
                           NOR?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              oh well, wrong again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 a multiple-post Re to Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    replies            01/01/70 00:00      
               von Neumann RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sure about the volume?            01/01/70 00:00      
            There is something VERY strange here: T            01/01/70 00:00      
               indeed VERY strange            01/01/70 00:00      
                  could it be            01/01/70 00:00      
                     maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Mea culpa ! WRONG EXAMPLE!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Then use DEDICATED ASICS            01/01/70 00:00      
                        One more detail just to get it right            01/01/70 00:00      
                           You haven't done the homework yet            01/01/70 00:00      
                     For that qty modify a standard chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Orders of Magnitude            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Re: Orders of Magnitude            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That may be a good per-piece cost            01/01/70 00:00      
   missing details            01/01/70 00:00      
      this is just a joke            01/01/70 00:00      
         ASIC size            01/01/70 00:00      
      Still price consideration problems            01/01/70 00:00      
   now paralell posted            01/01/70 00:00      
      End result and solution!            01/01/70 00:00      
         wrong sorry            01/01/70 00:00      

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