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12/14/05 12:10
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#105210 - Problem Solved.
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Dear Forum Members,

Thanks yo all of you for your kind replies, The problem i was having with encoder seems to have solved. I conducted extensive tests and found that the problem of misleading decoder counts is seen only when the deocoder is working in 1X mode in 2X and 4X modes there are absolutely no errors at all. The test procedure is as follow.

I connected a proximity switch that is fired when shaft completes a rotation. At start decoder count is reset. Micro starts rotating motor at 5RPM completes a rotation Rotation completion is detected by said proximity switch. After rotation completion the decoder count is read displayed on hyperterminal screen along with shaft frequency. And then frequency is increased by 1 and one rotation is completed and decoder count is displayed this process continues till 150RPM speed and then test completes.
The data was captured and analysed. Theoretiaclly at 4X for every rotation the decoder counter should increament by 2000 at 2X it should increament by 1000 and at 1X by 500. Follwing are the test results of tests i conducted.

RPM      4X     2X      1X
------------------------------------
5	1991	999	61
6	3992	2000	122
7	5992	3000	293
8	7992	3999	495
9	9992	5000	743
10	11992	5999	1024
11	13992	7000	1280
12	15992	7999	1589
13	17992	9000	1833
14	19992	10001	2440
15	21992	11000	2722
16	23992	12000	3056
17	25991	13000	3381
18	27991	14000	3790
19	29991	14999	4132
20	31990	15999	4484
21	33992	17000	4881
22	35993	18001	5493
23	37993	19001	6100
24	39991	20000	6523
25	41991	21000	6996
26	43991	21999	7438
27	45990	22999	7818
28	47991	24000	8229
29	49991	25000	8718
30	51991	26000	9226
31	53991	27000	9727
32	55991	28000	10173
33	57991	29000	10610
34	59990	30000	10999
35	61991	31000	11396
36	63990	31999	11819
37	65991	32999	12249
38	67991	33998	12725
39	69991	35002	13207
40	71990	36005	13733
41	73991	37005	14242
42	75991	38006	14719
43	77991	39005	15173
44	79990	40005	15630
45	81991	41006	16082
46	83991	42005	16579
47      85991	43004	17100
48	87990	44004	17657
49	89990   45003	18141
50	91991	46003	18598
51	93993	47003	19077
52	95993	48002	19634
53	97992	49001	20126
54	99992	50000	20596
55	101992	51000	21077
56	103991	52000	21568
57	105991	53000	22129
58	107991	54000	22628
59	109991	54999	23122
60	111991	55999	23608
61	113990	56999	24098
62	115990	57999	24586
63	117990	58999	25072
64	119990	59999	25565
65	121990	60999	26058
66	123990	61999	26550
67	125989	62999	27046
68	127989	63999	27538
69	129990	64999	28034
70	131990	65999	28528
71	133988	66999	29023
72	135989	67999	29518
73	137989	68999	30013
74	139990	69999	30507
75	141989	70999	31002


It can be seen that 2X and 4X modes work very accurate at all motor speeds where as 1X mode works very bad at lower frequencies at higher freqneucies i.e beyond 60RPM performance at 1X is some what improved but not too good. Earlier i was using only 1X mode and thus was observing errors.

The motor makes a lot of noise at speeds lower than 60RPM and vibrates too whereas above 60RPM it runs silent without much vibrations. At 20RPM and at 40RPM it resonantes so bad that atleast 4 times it broke its supply wires vibrating on table.

The problem has been found but why this problem occurs with 1X decode and not at 2X and 4X is still a big mystry. I hope some encoder experienced forum member can tell why this strange behaviour occur with decoder.

Steve/Craig the problem is solved but please dont close the thread since its only partially solved until some satisfactory info on strange 1X behaviour is posted by some kind member.

Thanks & Regards,
Prahlad Purohit

List of 63 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
shaft encoder & HCTL2032 with stepper.            01/01/70 00:00      
   2032 clock            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: 2032 Clock.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Correct Freq.            01/01/70 00:00      
      discusses the clocking            01/01/70 00:00      
         and one more            01/01/70 00:00      
   Clock = 32MHz still decoder cheating.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Damper ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: Damper.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sp            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: Sp.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  closed loop systems            01/01/70 00:00      
                     and            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What is the reason for vibration?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Re: Vibration Source.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Vibration or resonance..?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Stepper motor action            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exactly...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 OK            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    ringing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       depends on factors            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Just visualize any mechanical drive stop            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Possible tests            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Bummer isn't it ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I know this, but has not seen it with tr            01/01/70 00:00      
         lower the clock            01/01/70 00:00      
            exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: Exactly.            01/01/70 00:00      
      errors            01/01/70 00:00      
         oscillation            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not Sure.            01/01/70 00:00      
      what does the scope say?            01/01/70 00:00      
         oscillator            01/01/70 00:00      
   Tried Frequencies from 25kHz to 33MHz.            01/01/70 00:00      
      you have something defective            01/01/70 00:00      
         Mechanics            01/01/70 00:00      
            I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
               any mechab=nical, however bad should giv            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sloppy            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: defective.            01/01/70 00:00      
            did you forget the mistletoe?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Re: offload.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I mixed up 2 HCTLxxx chips.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why encoder?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Reference            01/01/70 00:00      
         absolute encoder            01/01/70 00:00      
            expensive.            01/01/70 00:00      
               absolute encoders            01/01/70 00:00      
               the real problem with absolute encoders            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Nah            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Why Encoder.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Encoder with stepper            01/01/70 00:00      
   Problem Solved.            01/01/70 00:00      
      "Solved" ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: Resonance.            01/01/70 00:00      
      "problem solved" does not jive            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: Misleading encoder.            01/01/70 00:00      
            HCTL-2032 encoder counting problem            01/01/70 00:00      
   Torsion Damper.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Capture ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Stepper motor with shaft encoder            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: Capture.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Stepper motor            01/01/70 00:00      

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