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03/09/06 13:30
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#111695 - the bane of many
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I don't think 4 layer board is feasible at this stage.

I have heard that one so often "we will prototype with 2 layers and then, if needed, go to 4". That is back asswards. Why fight problems with 2 layers on the proto where, if you are anything like the rest of us, you have enough other problems. If I have an app where I would like to go 2 - or even 1 - layer I proto on 4 and then, when all works, if I have a problem with the 2 layer version, I know it is a layout problem.

Erik


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AD9835 noise problem            01/01/70 00:00      
   noise            01/01/70 00:00      
   Recommendations            01/01/70 00:00      
      quick fix?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
            Transmission lines            01/01/70 00:00      
               5MHz?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Spectrum analyser            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's ground noise            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ground noise and groundhogs            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Harmonics as well            01/01/70 00:00      
         comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why separate the analog & digital gnds?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Splitting the ground plane            01/01/70 00:00      
               Evaluation board            01/01/70 00:00      
            thin ground?            01/01/70 00:00      
               that is why you use star            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ground wire in parallel            01/01/70 00:00      
                  and a twisted pair?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Would do!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        does not exist, Jan if you used twisted            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The clock signal?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              oh well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Indeed            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    is there a way...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Hardly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       unfortunately not            01/01/70 00:00      
                           twisted pair            01/01/70 00:00      
                              is that not obvious            01/01/70 00:00      
            No ground traces, but patches            01/01/70 00:00      
               the bane of many            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Why 1 or 2 layers            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it's nice!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No Secrets            01/01/70 00:00      
                           DALO 2M professional            01/01/70 00:00      
                              UV ink Problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Mixed method?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    No Need for DALO            01/01/70 00:00      
                     CE            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Single step mode            01/01/70 00:00      
                           If you want...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              mmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Dreaming            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    LAYOUT            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       100nF caps            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          100nF ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Some checks            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's my daily job!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Unfortunately, no            01/01/70 00:00      
            simulate double-layer            01/01/70 00:00      
   Seperate Analog and Digital Supply            01/01/70 00:00      
      RLC-filters don't help?            01/01/70 00:00      
         separate            01/01/70 00:00      
            And...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Seperate Supplies            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Evaluation board            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No not that one...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Curly            01/01/70 00:00      
                           OT: Hair            01/01/70 00:00      
                              lets have pictures            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 No no...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 http://www.k6ese.com/Mar_Vista_Shack.htm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    but it is relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                              No wonder...            01/01/70 00:00      
       waveforms            01/01/70 00:00      
         Link to DDS page            01/01/70 00:00      
            Add the second stage...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Filter components            01/01/70 00:00      
            clock            01/01/70 00:00      
               What clock            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Sampling theorem            01/01/70 00:00      
                        But...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Can't find it now            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ground of probe?            01/01/70 00:00      
            even better            01/01/70 00:00      
               Good trick!            01/01/70 00:00      
            same point            01/01/70 00:00      
               Both            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I feel strong now!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Funny!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Depends...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Oh Dear            01/01/70 00:00      
                     NO analog outputs            01/01/70 00:00      
                        since there is no schematics presented            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Publishing failed            01/01/70 00:00      
                              then give a link to an ORCAD drawing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Schematics            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    corrections            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Big test            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Try This Schematic...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       one more problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I miss the second 300R resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Terminating Resistor.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Answers            01/01/70 00:00      
                        University of Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Keep us informed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              of course            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Update            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Eager to know            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Me too            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Autoreload            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Current source output            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Electronic World Feb 06            01/01/70 00:00      
   Superb!            01/01/70 00:00      
      No surprise            01/01/70 00:00      
   AD9835 Cycles            01/01/70 00:00      
   Solid Ground Plane Update!!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Very nice results!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Low frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
            SLIGHt correction            01/01/70 00:00      
            OPA27?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Cross talk on PCB tracks            01/01/70 00:00      
            Have a look at this plot            01/01/70 00:00      
            Interesting question            01/01/70 00:00      
               further interesting question            01/01/70 00:00      

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