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03/08/06 21:34
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#111649 - AD9835 noise problem
I made a nice frequency synthesizer single sided board as shown below:


The funny thing is that when I generate a sine wave output, the signal is pure before the low pass filter while it is thick and full of noise after the low pass filter.
Another strange noise problem, When the reset button is held low ie the microcontroller is held non operational, the AD9835 generate clean sinusoidal signal, while if the microcontroller is working I get the thick signal again.
I noticed that inductors pick up alot of noise.
What do you reakon I should do?
Change my LC into RC filters?
Make each synthesizer and filter in a sheilded compartment?
Is single sided board good for SMD or do I have to make double layer with solid ground plane?
I noticed my sine wave output picks up the 5MHz crystal oscillator of the microcontroller, should it be better if I change the oscillator into regular crystal?
I'm using PLL x 16 inside the microcontroller making it clock at 80Mhz!
Mahmood

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AD9835 noise problem            01/01/70 00:00      
   noise            01/01/70 00:00      
   Recommendations            01/01/70 00:00      
      quick fix?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
            Transmission lines            01/01/70 00:00      
               5MHz?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Spectrum analyser            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's ground noise            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ground noise and groundhogs            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Harmonics as well            01/01/70 00:00      
         comments            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why separate the analog & digital gnds?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Splitting the ground plane            01/01/70 00:00      
               Evaluation board            01/01/70 00:00      
            thin ground?            01/01/70 00:00      
               that is why you use star            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ground wire in parallel            01/01/70 00:00      
                  and a twisted pair?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Would do!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        does not exist, Jan if you used twisted            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The clock signal?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              oh well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Indeed            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    is there a way...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Hardly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       unfortunately not            01/01/70 00:00      
                           twisted pair            01/01/70 00:00      
                              is that not obvious            01/01/70 00:00      
            No ground traces, but patches            01/01/70 00:00      
               the bane of many            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Why 1 or 2 layers            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it's nice!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No Secrets            01/01/70 00:00      
                           DALO 2M professional            01/01/70 00:00      
                              UV ink Problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Mixed method?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    No Need for DALO            01/01/70 00:00      
                     CE            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Single step mode            01/01/70 00:00      
                           If you want...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              mmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Dreaming            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    LAYOUT            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       100nF caps            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          100nF ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Some checks            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's my daily job!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Unfortunately, no            01/01/70 00:00      
            simulate double-layer            01/01/70 00:00      
   Seperate Analog and Digital Supply            01/01/70 00:00      
      RLC-filters don't help?            01/01/70 00:00      
         separate            01/01/70 00:00      
            And...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Seperate Supplies            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Evaluation board            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No not that one...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Curly            01/01/70 00:00      
                           OT: Hair            01/01/70 00:00      
                              lets have pictures            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 No no...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 http://www.k6ese.com/Mar_Vista_Shack.htm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    but it is relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                              No wonder...            01/01/70 00:00      
       waveforms            01/01/70 00:00      
         Link to DDS page            01/01/70 00:00      
            Add the second stage...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Filter components            01/01/70 00:00      
            clock            01/01/70 00:00      
               What clock            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Sampling theorem            01/01/70 00:00      
                        But...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Can't find it now            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ground of probe?            01/01/70 00:00      
            even better            01/01/70 00:00      
               Good trick!            01/01/70 00:00      
            same point            01/01/70 00:00      
               Both            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I feel strong now!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Funny!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Depends...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Oh Dear            01/01/70 00:00      
                     NO analog outputs            01/01/70 00:00      
                        since there is no schematics presented            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Publishing failed            01/01/70 00:00      
                              then give a link to an ORCAD drawing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Schematics            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    corrections            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Big test            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Try This Schematic...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       one more problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I miss the second 300R resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Terminating Resistor.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Answers            01/01/70 00:00      
                        University of Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Keep us informed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              of course            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Update            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Eager to know            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Me too            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Autoreload            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Current source output            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Electronic World Feb 06            01/01/70 00:00      
   Superb!            01/01/70 00:00      
      No surprise            01/01/70 00:00      
   AD9835 Cycles            01/01/70 00:00      
   Solid Ground Plane Update!!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Very nice results!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Low frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
            SLIGHt correction            01/01/70 00:00      
            OPA27?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Cross talk on PCB tracks            01/01/70 00:00      
            Have a look at this plot            01/01/70 00:00      
            Interesting question            01/01/70 00:00      
               further interesting question            01/01/70 00:00      

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