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08/21/06 19:10
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 		 #122729 - and even then ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Testing is what one does with a new circuit once he is absolutely certain it functions as desired and this is achieved by DESIGN, not by "let us see if it will work".

And even then this fact still stand: "succesful testing does not prove the abscence of bugs, it only proves the abscence of known bugs"

This means over a range of temperature, voltage, and randomized system noise
and, seemingly, for Atmel programming" "exposed to a variety of PC printer ports".

I can not visulaize any form of 'testing' that can catch a DESIGN glitch such as one that will only raise its ugly head if interrupt #2 happen exactly 3-7ns after interrupt #1 went active while the code executed at line 555 in module 7. Far fetched? no, I have seen such.

Erik

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AT89s52 error with programmers            01/01/70 00:00      
   the 'weekly' question get the weekly answer            01/01/70 00:00      
   Add some pull up resistors (4.7K\'s) on LS device.            01/01/70 00:00      
      risque business            01/01/70 00:00      
   Home made JTAG            01/01/70 00:00      
      It is so refreshing to see thing like this instead            01/01/70 00:00      
         Tested!            01/01/70 00:00      
            have you 'tested' that the flash caps are fully            01/01/70 00:00      
               Atmel does that            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I think you are wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I don't think so            01/01/70 00:00      
                        yes, and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Bah, shoot that designer :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                              not the chip designer            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 JTAG x Flash Data Retention            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    nope            01/01/70 00:00      
   Tnx for answers...!            01/01/70 00:00      
   89s52 programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
      Only LS chips            01/01/70 00:00      
         there is the mail            01/01/70 00:00      
            here is world´s end            01/01/70 00:00      
               However far it from nowhere, I am sure you have ma            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You can buy here!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     he can do it himself...            01/01/70 00:00      
            What more fast than 9 ns?!            01/01/70 00:00      
               I do not understand. What I said is not to find s            01/01/70 00:00      
         Then stop doing in electronics!            01/01/70 00:00      
   re: AT89S52 error            01/01/70 00:00      
   Somebody test buffer CD4010?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the CD40 is sloooooooow compared to HC            01/01/70 00:00      
         What more fast than 9 ns?!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not the speed is reason only            01/01/70 00:00      
   But and the pull ups in buffer´s out?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Does that suggest anything to you?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Type "74VHC244" into the search window            01/01/70 00:00      
         show the calculations            01/01/70 00:00      
      Schematic of programmer using 74LS244            01/01/70 00:00      
         Circuit that i am using            01/01/70 00:00      
            the very reason            01/01/70 00:00      
               Right...!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  have you conmsidered a 'radical' approach            01/01/70 00:00      
                     RX2...?!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Rx2            01/01/70 00:00      
            Try this one            01/01/70 00:00      
               a full circle            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Time for a decision...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I did it...!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Can\'t you order the parts by mail?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the old STUPID "It is tested"            01/01/70 00:00      
         Gee, another BS answer from Erik.            01/01/70 00:00      
            I can BE QUITE specific about what I post            01/01/70 00:00      
         "tested" does not mean tested            01/01/70 00:00      
            and even then ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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