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01/20/06 20:32
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 		 #107929 - they don't fill all amateur needs
Responding to: ???'s previous message
While it may be true that the Silabs parts are faster, since they don't allow external memory access,
No issue, if you need more than 128k, you have chosen the wrong architecture.

and, most of all, because they don't drop into a DIP40 socket, they don't fill all amateur needs.
I correct with the bold since no industrial app is made today in anything but surface mount.

The DS89C4x0's allow execution rate changes .. under software control.
so does the SILabs

These MCU's are in full production, so they should be readily available.
so are the SILabs

I have no objection to the Dallas chip, I just can not see, even with staring, any advantage for professional use (no disadvantage either, but have not looked for such).

Erik


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Page Mode, anyone?            01/01/70 00:00      
   benefits            01/01/70 00:00      
   got curious, could'nt find "ultra" just            01/01/70 00:00      
      Ulta            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'd love to see more "ultra"            01/01/70 00:00      
            I found it quick enough            01/01/70 00:00      
      Link to manual            01/01/70 00:00      
   high - Ok, ultra - no way            01/01/70 00:00      
      why ultra            01/01/70 00:00      
         page mode            01/01/70 00:00      
      Apparently there were grand plans...            01/01/70 00:00      
         There are some advantages            01/01/70 00:00      
            they don't fill all amateur needs            01/01/70 00:00      
               not all old app's are hobby jobs            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Name me one case, outside amateurs where            01/01/70 00:00      
                     inhouse special devices            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Here's one, but where there's one ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               One advantage...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Commercial DIP applications            01/01/70 00:00      
            at the other end of the scale            01/01/70 00:00      
            Comments on DS89C4x0            01/01/70 00:00      
               Sasha's comments.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Architecture            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Architecture ... there's the rub            01/01/70 00:00      
                        hardware library            01/01/70 00:00      
                           hardware library?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Hardware Library!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 How could I have missed that ???            01/01/70 00:00      
   In fact you could            01/01/70 00:00      
   Hazards in pipelined processors            01/01/70 00:00      
   Page Mode - DS'4x0            01/01/70 00:00      
      Say ... are you the same Phil Gallo who            01/01/70 00:00      
         No .. Not the same fellow            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry Mr. Fagin            01/01/70 00:00      
            ... it was a typergeographical error ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Roll your own..... maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
                  But.....            01/01/70 00:00      
                     an old reference            01/01/70 00:00      
               DS'420 Pipeline            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I'd figured that as well            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I am pretty sure if you look            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Be specific, please            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Oh I am sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Let's not start a jihad here.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              there is documentation of a pipeline in            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 to pipeline or not to pipeline            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not really            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 maybe so, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    when is a question a conclusion?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       What's a DS4?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          oops, got caouht up in the hype a DS3xx            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Pipeline Ref - Electronic Design            01/01/70 00:00      
                     hummm....            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, it's a 4-stage pipeline ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           and it's somewhat dated            01/01/70 00:00      
                              the common approach            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Where is "the bible" published?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    UART modes 2 and 3 "the bible" chapter 3            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    The Bible            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Intel Documentation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Thanks for coming up with that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Erik's link            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          go to links            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Thanks! That's not what I expected            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Identical ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Philips and Intel            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   License History            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      foundation document            01/01/70 00:00      
   branch prediction            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe, as an intellectual exercise, but            01/01/70 00:00      
         ah well.....            01/01/70 00:00      
            it's clearly worth doing            01/01/70 00:00      

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