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03/13/06 13:12
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#112048 - There are some, but who gives a hoot.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
5V flash derivatives with more than 40 pins in 51 family: you tell me how many.
There are some, but who gives a hoot. The world is moving to 3V3, so why not follow the evolution.

Call the bug what you like, Philips did not have a solution, nor were they loudly advertising the solution that you and Esacedemy created. Glad you are realizing that Philips did a stupid thing.
I can not name ONE company that has not done "stupid things" and, as opposed to some, I do not shy from posting them even for products I like.

Precisely my point, this part of the world we don't get those updates of programming algos as easily.
well, "easy" NoTouch is on my user page here and at esacademy for free download, FlashMagic is downloadable as well, is that "difficult"

You don't care about simulation does not mean it is useless. You don't know how to use it effectively. It is an important part of a concept called co-design, but you will dismiss that as another catch phrase.
I do nnot dismiss co-design, that I try to get proto hardware as soon as possible, is anither story. All my co-design run on the emulator (in some cases plugged into a devboard) and there is no hindrance to co-design by not using a simulator. My opposition to simulators is not an opposition to simulators per se but an opposition to relying on them.

Yes, even with free tools we do get a lot fixes. Same with Motorola, they have good support team for code warrior even in India.
OK, so you get "a lot fixes", great, but when do you get them. WEith paid tools, I can insist on a fix in 2 days or less, with a free tool I am at the mercy of the provider. It may be that you are able to stop your development for a couple of weeks while waiting for a fix, I can not.

You could have given a more analytic answer, at least listing in brief the specfic drawbacks of PIC, like I did.
pleas reread my posts.

Erik

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TopicAuthorDate
help on pic microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wrong Forum            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you tried manufacturer's website?            01/01/70 00:00      
   A really hard task !            01/01/70 00:00      
      what??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Read modify write pitfall            01/01/70 00:00      
            doubt abt pic and 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
               lets put it this way            01/01/70 00:00      
               8051 for laziness            01/01/70 00:00      
                  my opinion            01/01/70 00:00      
                     freedom of choice?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that may be, but what I answered was a l            01/01/70 00:00      
                           In how many projects have you used PIC?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Ooooooh... This, in a 8051 forum?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Allow me to clarify.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Kalpak, from which perspective            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Both.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    AVR?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       why not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          why silabs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Free tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          long term marketing            01/01/70 00:00      
                              compatibility            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Since you are betting...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    all you say is irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          that IS irrelevant why would you want to            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Misleading newbies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                yes kalpak very true            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   The tragedy of Indian market            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                There are some, but who gives a hoot.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              PICs are wonderful!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              kalpak said >>>            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 One sale does not..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Rewrite? Not really!            01/01/70 00:00      
   '51-like instruction set PIC assembler            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mailing list for PIC            01/01/70 00:00      
   Assuming C            01/01/70 00:00      
      This very well could be why I never got            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sick as a parrot            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sadly            01/01/70 00:00      
               In this Universe I use C            01/01/70 00:00      
                  PIC C?            01/01/70 00:00      
            to PIC or not to PIC            01/01/70 00:00      
   hi            01/01/70 00:00      
   programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
   Today's lesson...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I know 8051 and PIC.            01/01/70 00:00      
         waht kinda computer it is?            01/01/70 00:00      
            RISC            01/01/70 00:00      
         Contradiction?!            01/01/70 00:00      
            more powerful            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bell Curve?            01/01/70 00:00      
   PIC Does Not Support External RAM.            01/01/70 00:00      
      SRAM overrated            01/01/70 00:00      
         C is not required            01/01/70 00:00      
      PIC18's support external RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
         Some PIC18 devices.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not True            01/01/70 00:00      
   What to use. Some translation issues.            01/01/70 00:00      
      that is where the contradicion occur            01/01/70 00:00      
   Funny thread            01/01/70 00:00      
      wikipedia says...            01/01/70 00:00      
   help me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can you start a new thread, please?            01/01/70 00:00      
         and use a descriptive subject            01/01/70 00:00      

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