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03/10/06 18:01
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#111919 - Since you are betting...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Obviously you have not used a PIC, but I have used many of the 51 derivatives.

Compatible? The LPC9xx are not 5V, nor are the Silabs. Plenty of PICs run from 3 to 5V, even the 80 pin devices, so peripheral devices do not change if the processor changes.
Programming, the less said the better, the LPC9xx scared the hell out a lot of designers in India. Philips seems to change the programming algo nearly every time they change their chip vendor.
Most PICs have common programming tools. Microchip has free software tools(compiler, IDE) for the 18F, 30F and the newer devices, the 16F and 12F lack only a compiler from the company.
No Silab in DIP package, so difficult to give project to students and general prototyping.
Yes, I am comparing with whole list of companies you mention, except for TI and Philips who do give samples. But then again their distributors do not care to stock most of them. So the fact that 51 is the largest family is illusory in India.
Bugs, yes of course, PICs have them. And even in denial mode, if they know your competence level, they at most say "not able reproduce the bug", not question instead your ability to design.

I grew up on Intel and derivatives(8085, Z80 onwards) and with some exceptions, each chip family is created by competent engineers with some market segment in mind. So I would never be so rash in knocking down a family without really working with it and even then not in such terms.


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TopicAuthorDate
help on pic microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wrong Forum            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you tried manufacturer's website?            01/01/70 00:00      
   A really hard task !            01/01/70 00:00      
      what??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Read modify write pitfall            01/01/70 00:00      
            doubt abt pic and 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
               lets put it this way            01/01/70 00:00      
               8051 for laziness            01/01/70 00:00      
                  my opinion            01/01/70 00:00      
                     freedom of choice?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that may be, but what I answered was a l            01/01/70 00:00      
                           In how many projects have you used PIC?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Ooooooh... This, in a 8051 forum?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Allow me to clarify.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Kalpak, from which perspective            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Both.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    AVR?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       why not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          why silabs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Free tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          long term marketing            01/01/70 00:00      
                              compatibility            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Since you are betting...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    all you say is irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          that IS irrelevant why would you want to            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Misleading newbies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                yes kalpak very true            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   The tragedy of Indian market            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                There are some, but who gives a hoot.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              PICs are wonderful!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              kalpak said >>>            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 One sale does not..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Rewrite? Not really!            01/01/70 00:00      
   '51-like instruction set PIC assembler            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mailing list for PIC            01/01/70 00:00      
   Assuming C            01/01/70 00:00      
      This very well could be why I never got            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sick as a parrot            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sadly            01/01/70 00:00      
               In this Universe I use C            01/01/70 00:00      
                  PIC C?            01/01/70 00:00      
            to PIC or not to PIC            01/01/70 00:00      
   hi            01/01/70 00:00      
   programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
   Today's lesson...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I know 8051 and PIC.            01/01/70 00:00      
         waht kinda computer it is?            01/01/70 00:00      
            RISC            01/01/70 00:00      
         Contradiction?!            01/01/70 00:00      
            more powerful            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bell Curve?            01/01/70 00:00      
   PIC Does Not Support External RAM.            01/01/70 00:00      
      SRAM overrated            01/01/70 00:00      
         C is not required            01/01/70 00:00      
      PIC18's support external RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
         Some PIC18 devices.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not True            01/01/70 00:00      
   What to use. Some translation issues.            01/01/70 00:00      
      that is where the contradicion occur            01/01/70 00:00      
   Funny thread            01/01/70 00:00      
      wikipedia says...            01/01/70 00:00      
   help me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can you start a new thread, please?            01/01/70 00:00      
         and use a descriptive subject            01/01/70 00:00      

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