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01/25/06 16:29
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#108290 - selling "haystacks" is criminal
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Perhaps it's worth considering the implementation details. If a guy is building something himself, he probably is working with perf-board rather than a PCB. If he was inclined to use an 8255, perhaps it was because it was conveniently packaged for DIY.... If we want this guy to have a chance at succeeding, wouldn't it be best to keep him in safe territory?
What is unsafe about 74HC latches and gates?

Using the 8255 is restrictive and, with todays speed/risetimes require dumb luck to get to work.

if he's only building one or two of these "things" he's probably working with wire and soldering iron
BALONEY, you can get PCBs for $13 in qty 5 (EE times ad) and if you can not spend $13 on making a design reliable, you should keep it to yourself, selling "haystacks" is criminal.

If, indeed the OP is making this for himself (there is some indication to the contray) then putting it together in a fashion that will cause the occasional/frequent glitch is something the maker must decide by himself to live with, but AGAIN: selling "haystacks" is criminal.

Why is this my comcern? anyone selling "haystacks" gives us all a bad reputation.

Erik


List of 55 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
please help me            01/01/70 00:00      
   Clock freq            01/01/70 00:00      
   Reset ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   please help me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Probe            01/01/70 00:00      
         8255 PROBLEM            01/01/70 00:00      
            Reset 8255            01/01/70 00:00      
   Memory Map            01/01/70 00:00      
   please help me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Scope            01/01/70 00:00      
         8255 address?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Memory Map part 2            01/01/70 00:00      
   isn't this fun            01/01/70 00:00      
      for once, I've got to agree            01/01/70 00:00      
         please help me            01/01/70 00:00      
            8255 - EXTERMINATE!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Cool            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Some I/O expansion, some nostalgia            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Even Better 74xx573            01/01/70 00:00      
                        or - even better?            01/01/70 00:00      
               more easily said than done            01/01/70 00:00      
                  selling "haystacks" is criminal            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        see ad in EE times            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Hobbyist            01/01/70 00:00      
                              max 7103            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 location            01/01/70 00:00      
                           $13? For what? What pitch, tolerance?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              He's English.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 None, I hope            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Reliable ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Yes, I like 'em too ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Never wire wrapped            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             You don't have to wire-wrap to benefit            01/01/70 00:00      
                              read the ad            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Atmel and Phillips            01/01/70 00:00      
            please help me, why on earth should we            01/01/70 00:00      
   please help me            01/01/70 00:00      
      for the Philips P89V51Rx2 and the P89C66            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel too            01/01/70 00:00      
            Are You Sure            01/01/70 00:00      
               Don't worry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Understand your system            01/01/70 00:00      
   please help me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Please don't answer            01/01/70 00:00      
         What is the clock of your system            01/01/70 00:00      
            Maybe you should use the 8155?            01/01/70 00:00      
               if it has to be some such thing, then by            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
      never heard of 8155            01/01/70 00:00      
         well ... few of us have heard of it, but            01/01/70 00:00      
            RIOT            01/01/70 00:00      
               OK ... but that's not what the OP wants.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There is one enormous difference between            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe this will help.            01/01/70 00:00      

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