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07/18/06 16:59
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#120498 - He'd have seen other alternatives
Responding to: ???'s previous message
and not even have gone down this path!

This type of problem has been discussed several times on this forum, and, as you can see, others are aware of that fact.

The obvious answer to his intial question, " Can I drive a 12 Volts 400 Ohms relay (like LEONE SC5-S-DC12V OR GOODSKY RW-SH-112D)by a '51 microcontroller working at 5 Volts? " would be a resounding "NO!"

He certainly needs buffering, but then he's shown that he did figure that much out.

The previous occasions on which this has come up, some sort of relay driver was often recommended, and, if he has only one such relay to drive, then one of the little TI or NSC relay driver ic's in an 8-pin package would have sufficed, wouldn't it? They even offer high-side drivers that can still be driven from a 5-volt MCU. All that would have appeared in a simple search. Unless he's going into a production situation where he can save $2US per 10K units by using discretes, I would not recommend such a solution. Discretes are for people who know how to use them, and, in today's market, don't offer much saving.

A search would have shown him a wide range of open-collector or open-drain solutions that would have reduced the problem to a $0.25US device and a pullup resistor.

I guess my view is gradually becoming jaded as I see, more and more, the posts from people who won't even do the most basic things to look for a solution.

That may, in fact, not be the case here, but I certainly don't see any evidence that a search was attempted, as there should, at least, have been a discussion of why a relay driver was inappropriate.

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TopicAuthorDate
Driving 12 Volts relay by 5 Volts microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
   12v relay            01/01/70 00:00      
      This will not work properly!            01/01/70 00:00      
         well, it might            01/01/70 00:00      
         pullup?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Doable, but disadvantagous            01/01/70 00:00      
               language and a comment            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Makes only 3 drivers per port            01/01/70 00:00      
      12v relay            01/01/70 00:00      
   12V relay driver for 80C52            01/01/70 00:00      
      12V relay driver for 80C52            01/01/70 00:00      
      Analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
         sure.but why? this is \"grab bag values\"            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: Analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
               basically they are 'bleeders'            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Choosing Bleeder resistor values            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Values Are design Specific            01/01/70 00:00      
                        how to calculate?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           what you are missing is that a transistor junction            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Two ways of calculation...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Thank you very much!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Nearly....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    BC556 base current direction...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Three currents arround the base...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Yes. Its clear for me now.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Was a pleasure...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                So Nice of You. Thanks again!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Didn't search first            01/01/70 00:00      
      Everything is already here. That is not the point!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Maybe it IS the point            01/01/70 00:00      
            Please read again his post            01/01/70 00:00      
               He'd have seen other alternatives            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I give up...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     don't            01/01/70 00:00      
         faq            01/01/70 00:00      
            Beat me to it            01/01/70 00:00      
            freewheling            01/01/70 00:00      
               1n4148            01/01/70 00:00      
               Heaven, no!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  as usual, the global became specific            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That's why I...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  FAQ update            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Comment            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's fixed now. Thanks.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Alternatives            01/01/70 00:00      
   yet another way            01/01/70 00:00      
      Trouble making            01/01/70 00:00      
   the case of fault            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some thoughts            01/01/70 00:00      

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