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02/07/06 20:20
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#109442 - assumptions
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Dan Henry said:
Ian Bell said:
If you make a million units you seriously consider doing the whole thing in assembler.

That's assuming that using assembly language reduces the memory requirements enough to "fall into" a cheaper part.

I make no assumptions. Assembler is not just about smaller code size, but also about better use of resources and the mind set of the team especially when it comes to creating small fast memory sparse algorithms.

The trouble with C is the PC mind set that comes with it. When you are really up against the wall with unit cost you make use of the best tool in the universe, the human brain. No compiler comes even close.

Ian


List of 66 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
GNU gcc compiler for 8052            01/01/70 00:00      
   No!            01/01/70 00:00      
      sdcc            01/01/70 00:00      
      And never will be            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hmm well            01/01/70 00:00      
            Stack Size            01/01/70 00:00      
         Is it so because..            01/01/70 00:00      
            processors supported by gcc            01/01/70 00:00      
            The reason...            01/01/70 00:00      
               bigstack            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Probably not            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bigger Stack            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how much is enough?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Who?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but who???            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                           No.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           only preprocessor            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Successful?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        routinely            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The AVR tinys have no ram            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not me            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Wheel re-invention            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I suppose            01/01/70 00:00      
                           sdcc - where to start            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No stack required            01/01/70 00:00      
                           reentrancy            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The right tool for the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                           RE: The right tool for the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Good point            01/01/70 00:00      
                              ... but who cares, anyway?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sad, but true!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not convincing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                        have been designed to fit C            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          it IS relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not rteally            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   ...and Pascal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   If you are planning to make 1.000.000 un            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   naah...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yup            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         oh $8            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            I don't buy that one            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               you have to work with what you get            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Even assembler needs justification            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      you DID use the %!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         as to above            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            tradeoffs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               I'd buy Keil if I had to make 2 units            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  my original point was...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Dan, you missed a detail :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         In good company            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            deadlines            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      assumptions            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         could not say it better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Nothing new there, then!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             oh well, more words            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Normal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   have a look            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes, but most want their tool            01/01/70 00:00      
            I dont know where to reply!            01/01/70 00:00      
   as so often before            01/01/70 00:00      
      Seen it so many times            01/01/70 00:00      

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