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02/07/06 15:51
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#109418 - my original point was...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... that although gcc is not optimal for 8-bitters, the avr implementation is "good enough" to be used even comercially.

Of course there are multiple criteria but if we go purely for the code space and if we believe the "68%" figure as stated by IAR, (based on the low cost of flash nowadays) I say that is not enough justification for many - even commercial - applications.

Personal opinion. Arguable, as usually.

JW


PS. Erik, thanks for your comments and hints, I appreciate them, really; but we won't discuss my personal choice of tools, will we? I said: I hate C, and that's it. Btw. I am C-ing at the moment, involuntarily...

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TopicAuthorDate
GNU gcc compiler for 8052            01/01/70 00:00      
   No!            01/01/70 00:00      
      sdcc            01/01/70 00:00      
      And never will be            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hmm well            01/01/70 00:00      
            Stack Size            01/01/70 00:00      
         Is it so because..            01/01/70 00:00      
            processors supported by gcc            01/01/70 00:00      
            The reason...            01/01/70 00:00      
               bigstack            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Probably not            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bigger Stack            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how much is enough?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Who?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but who???            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                           No.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           only preprocessor            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Successful?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        routinely            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The AVR tinys have no ram            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not me            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Wheel re-invention            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I suppose            01/01/70 00:00      
                           sdcc - where to start            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No stack required            01/01/70 00:00      
                           reentrancy            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The right tool for the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                           RE: The right tool for the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Good point            01/01/70 00:00      
                              ... but who cares, anyway?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sad, but true!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not convincing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                        have been designed to fit C            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          it IS relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not rteally            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   ...and Pascal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   If you are planning to make 1.000.000 un            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   naah...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yup            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         oh $8            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            I don't buy that one            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               you have to work with what you get            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Even assembler needs justification            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      you DID use the %!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         as to above            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            tradeoffs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               I'd buy Keil if I had to make 2 units            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  my original point was...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Dan, you missed a detail :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         In good company            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            deadlines            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      assumptions            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         could not say it better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Nothing new there, then!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             oh well, more words            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Normal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   have a look            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes, but most want their tool            01/01/70 00:00      
            I dont know where to reply!            01/01/70 00:00      
   as so often before            01/01/70 00:00      
      Seen it so many times            01/01/70 00:00      

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