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02/06/06 13:38
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#109288 - not convincing
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy Neil said:
I s'pose it gives the likes of IAR something to compare against - and something for their marketing departments to capitalise on! ;-)

They are either shy or don't know how to do it in a convincing way...
IAR website said:
The esults show that GNU avr-gcc 3.4.1 generates on average 68% more code than EWAVR 4.10B.

The price difference between ATMega64 and the twice-as-big ATMega128 (so it fits the extra 68% code) is around $2, calculating how many units do you need to sell to get that back is basic math.

I think they could do better...


Jan Waclawek

PS. If I'd be IAR, the first thing I'd try to capitalise is the fact that they have been there when AVR's have been designed to fit C. I'd put it in big red at the front of the page together with the 68% (and other figures),a screenshot and an offering of devkits (with picture) and put the boring features etc. list at the bottom.

But I may be terribly wrong, of course...

List of 66 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
GNU gcc compiler for 8052            01/01/70 00:00      
   No!            01/01/70 00:00      
      sdcc            01/01/70 00:00      
      And never will be            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hmm well            01/01/70 00:00      
            Stack Size            01/01/70 00:00      
         Is it so because..            01/01/70 00:00      
            processors supported by gcc            01/01/70 00:00      
            The reason...            01/01/70 00:00      
               bigstack            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Probably not            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bigger Stack            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how much is enough?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Who?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but who???            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                           No.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           only preprocessor            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Successful?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        routinely            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The AVR tinys have no ram            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not me            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Wheel re-invention            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I suppose            01/01/70 00:00      
                           sdcc - where to start            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                        No stack required            01/01/70 00:00      
                           reentrancy            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The right tool for the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                           RE: The right tool for the job            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Good point            01/01/70 00:00      
                              ... but who cares, anyway?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sad, but true!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not convincing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                        have been designed to fit C            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          it IS relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not rteally            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   ...and Pascal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   If you are planning to make 1.000.000 un            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   naah...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Yup            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         oh $8            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            I don't buy that one            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               you have to work with what you get            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Even assembler needs justification            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      you DID use the %!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         as to above            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            tradeoffs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               I'd buy Keil if I had to make 2 units            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  my original point was...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Dan, you missed a detail :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         In good company            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            deadlines            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      assumptions            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         could not say it better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Nothing new there, then!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             oh well, more words            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Normal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   have a look            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes, but most want their tool            01/01/70 00:00      
            I dont know where to reply!            01/01/70 00:00      
   as so often before            01/01/70 00:00      
      Seen it so many times            01/01/70 00:00      

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