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07/29/05 07:11
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#98421 - The application..........sorry its late
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Hello everyone.
Im sorry that I forgot to mention the application, I was just so caught up with the problem at hand!

All I am trying to do is measure the voltdrop across a pair of bars in a commutator of a Large DC motor. In doing this I can know if there are any shorts in the windings.

The way this was done previously is;
The test technician applies a current of anything of between 200 and 300A to the commutator with the brushes at about 90 deg from each other. As I mentioned previously, the supply is about 10V/300A and the resistence of the armature is about 0.0148 ohms.
The technician then uses a millivilt meter to measure the volt drop between each pair of bars. The readings should not vary much if there are no shorts or open cct windings.
Now I need to impliment this test digitaly and save the readings.

That is the reason I need to masure the volt drop between bars.

Kai, I plan to use the INA117, but my worry is the current.
I dont need to measure the currrent but I am worried that large currents from the test supply (300A) might flow into my low current control cct. I think that im not "the sharpest tool in the shed", maybe that is why i dont understand this problem.

Is there a chance that dangerous currents from the 10v/300A test supply will flow through the resistors in the INA117 down to the ground of my control cct? With this in mind, do you guys feel that I should use isolation in the form of an isolation amplifire?

Thank you all for taking the time,
sun

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Op amp input, high voltage measurement            01/01/70 00:00      
   You need...            01/01/70 00:00      
   ISO106, and: BE CAREFUL!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Very dangerous indeed!!!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Oh dear...            01/01/70 00:00      
            thanks guys, & Mahmood, my condolences            01/01/70 00:00      
               a question for Kai....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Precision            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I'd say that the DC "current transformer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not            01/01/70 00:00      
         Condolences            01/01/70 00:00      
         Condolences            01/01/70 00:00      
         busbars            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thank you all            01/01/70 00:00      
   Isolation transformer            01/01/70 00:00      
      DC            01/01/70 00:00      
         maybe this is what a "DC current transfo            01/01/70 00:00      
   High Voltage Op Amps            01/01/70 00:00      
   Problem Change, change in supply values            01/01/70 00:00      
      INA117 is a good choice then            01/01/70 00:00      
         shunt resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thick piece of wire            01/01/70 00:00      
               fine if you can calibrate.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
               Piece of Wire.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nevertheless...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Try these            01/01/70 00:00      
            Shunt Resistors            01/01/70 00:00      
   change in problem - different supply val            01/01/70 00:00      
   The application..........sorry its late            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not really            01/01/70 00:00      
      More questions...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Answers.......I hope this is clearer            01/01/70 00:00      
            I smell smoke            01/01/70 00:00      
               Toasty warm            01/01/70 00:00      
            Volt range            01/01/70 00:00      
               welder voltage            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Extremely informative!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     So...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ahm confoosed            01/01/70 00:00      
                           millivolts            01/01/70 00:00      
      Simon says            01/01/70 00:00      
         So the aim is to test for shorted turns?            01/01/70 00:00      
            I doubt this will work with DC motors            01/01/70 00:00      
   Ring Counter theory and schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
      Spot on Charles            01/01/70 00:00      
   millivolts and growler test            01/01/70 00:00      
   Test readings            01/01/70 00:00      
      Shorted turn            01/01/70 00:00      
      Could you draw a scheme?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Windings            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'm a bloody amateur...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Where you are measuring            01/01/70 00:00      
         Big fault ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            shorted turn            01/01/70 00:00      
               Update            01/01/70 00:00      
   Latest update            01/01/70 00:00      
      Much much more details needed!            01/01/70 00:00      

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