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03/13/07 16:22
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 		 #134871 - There's a learning curve with any package
Responding to: ???'s previous message
but before you decide on one, consider the old DOS-based OrCAD package that's discussed in a dedicated discussion group on YAHOO. It's available at no cost, and works WAY better, easier, and faster than any of the multi-hundred-k-buck packages I see and use every day. I'e got the latest OrCAD for Windows, Altium, Mentor, and Cadence packages in front of me all the time, yet prefer the old DOS-OrCAD386+ package.

I know you'd prefer a Windows-based package, but Windows makes nearly anything 10x as slow, and, by comparison with this old tool, most Windows-based tools are 100x as slow.

The package includes a schematic editor, a logic simulator, a PLD processor and modeling tool, and a PCB editor/autorouter. It's user-supported via that discussion group, and I find it easier to get help there than through the various "biggies."

The price is right, too!

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new PCB software wanted            01/01/70 00:00      
   If that is the case be happy, the more jumpe            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mike, when will you...            01/01/70 00:00      
      It isn't me            01/01/70 00:00      
         Four layer boards??            01/01/70 00:00      
            The only you get is a circuit >somwhat working<            01/01/70 00:00      
               sure, but he does not want to 'design' he wants to            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Connect A to B            01/01/70 00:00      
                     naah            01/01/70 00:00      
               are you sure you're not overstating your case?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  EMC issues            01/01/70 00:00      
                  As sure as one can be...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     All my commercial wire-wrap boards had 'em            01/01/70 00:00      
                        by Dr Howard Johnson and the like            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I don't think so ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              so you DO think so            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Well, yes and no ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    true, but how often have we seen            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       you can't FIX everything            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          not a word about lying            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             That would be a mistake            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                qualities often lacking            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Yes, and that's where the real lesson lies.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Almost total agree...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I don't think we entirely disagree, Kai ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes, less and less entire disagree...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Slot antenna            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I think it's a loop, not so much a slot antenna            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Slot antennae            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
   "Target"            01/01/70 00:00      
      Free Target?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Identical            01/01/70 00:00      
            I found 1/2 the answer            01/01/70 00:00      
               why library for LCD?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It doesn\'t require a library, just a decent editor            01/01/70 00:00      
               ??            01/01/70 00:00      
               In many respects, bEagle is probably the WORST            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I don't like Eagle either! It's not professional!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  hmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You may want to go back and read the comments            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I have given up to help Mike...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I'm not stuck to eagle            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I would try to get a second hand win98 PC            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 He hasn't searched for drivers yet.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Not necessarily true...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       not necessarily, but very likely            01/01/70 00:00      
                              You guys must like microsoft alot            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ... and you're sure it doesn't emulate a laserjet?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    stabile and relialbe ?!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Well the OS (XP in this case) doesn't type well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Stability            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             if it ain't broken...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not Identical            01/01/70 00:00      
               Huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Looks to me like it is just for hobby or            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What is your manufacturer?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sunstone Circuits            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
               Identical refering to operation, of course!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                     much of?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        One thing he finally accepted ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ah, thanks :)            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wrong windows            01/01/70 00:00      
   See my other post...            01/01/70 00:00      
   see my pcb tutorial link in chat forum            01/01/70 00:00      
      What about the associated software?            01/01/70 00:00      
         No direct output            01/01/70 00:00      
         haven't tried it            01/01/70 00:00      
   There's a learning curve with any package            01/01/70 00:00      
      Link?            01/01/70 00:00      
         maybe that's why it still exists            01/01/70 00:00      
      Running on a Windoze box?            01/01/70 00:00      
         It works best on a DOS-box            01/01/70 00:00      
      without commenting on he wisdom            01/01/70 00:00      
         The DOS-OrCAD files import into Capture            01/01/70 00:00      
   Links to other Schematic/Layout software            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Guy in England            01/01/70 00:00      
   pcb software            01/01/70 00:00      
      PCB123            01/01/70 00:00      

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