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03/07/06 13:48
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#111508 - 40MHz bus speed
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I was at Intel's site today and checked also FLASH - of course, where else than at the "mother of all FLASH"es? They seem to have some "embedded flash" in TSOP (although 56-pin).
Product brief said:
• Fast 85 ns asynchronous access time
• Burst read mode support at 40 MHz for fast code execution

It seems to me it tries to say, under certain conditions the access time is 25ns?

It is certainly not the solution for Richard, but perhaps leaves a couple of question marks behind...

Jan Waclawek

[added lated]
So this day is not wasted, I learned something new today: the modern FLASH to fulfill the high speed access requirements, work in a slightly similar way than SDRAM: as the physical access to the memory cells is slow (~70-120ns), they internally read a big chunk of memory in parallel, buffer it and are able to provide such a "page" (or data in "burst") significantly faster (~20-30ns). Of course, the mcu must be aware of this and be able to wait until the memory fetches a new page, if necessary.
A good source of info is the Spansion (a quick lookup in my chart -> yes, AMD's & Fujitsu's FLASH business merged a while ago :-) website:
http://www.spansion.com/support/t...notes.html
especially
http://www.spansion.com/applicati.../23710.pdf
http://www.spansion.com/applicati.../23711.pdf

Maybe not terribly relevant to '51, but nevertheless good to know.

JW

List of 28 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Has anybody seen FAST FLASH?            01/01/70 00:00      
   nope but then again......            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's not an 805x            01/01/70 00:00      
   external flash as code memory            01/01/70 00:00      
      Fast Flash            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's what I wanted to avoid.            01/01/70 00:00      
         "scabbing-on"            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
               www.sst.com            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Too bad ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      It doesn't take much effort to use 2 MB            01/01/70 00:00      
         apples and oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
   silly me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nope, not this time            01/01/70 00:00      
   what about            01/01/70 00:00      
      program/erase cycle isn't important            01/01/70 00:00      
         nvSRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
            too little SRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
               serial FLASH parallel SRAM?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That won't work            01/01/70 00:00      
                     are you desperate enough?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I didn't expect an easy fix.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I used digikey as a "search engine" and            01/01/70 00:00      
                              40MHz bus speed            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 big=slow?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    That's the case, sadly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       could you            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Nope ... it's etched in concrete ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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