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03/12/07 20:45
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#134816 - even nastier
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Or is it something much more nasty, namely repeatability error, means hysteresis?
as I mention in http://www.8052.com/faqs.phtml?FAQ=128848 "An experienced design team (decades of esperience) went through 28 layouts till they got a layout satisfactory for an economy scale, just visuailze the effort that goes into a precision scale."

If you look at scales for sale and ignore the totally irrelevant resolution, that so many love to publish, you will find that to obtain a precision like the one you aim for you need to fork out $10k -up. That should say something about the design effort required.

I am not expressing doubts that you can do it (no evidence either way exist) but your statement "the scale is already built using the AD7730" does seem to indicate that you have no idea whatsoever of the layout effort it takes to obtain such precision. Also, using a very sensitive A/D may work, but maybe you lose the ability to amplify at the loadcell which very well may lead to longer wires carrying microvolt signals. The road to a precicon scale is full of potholes and I doubt you have found even a tenth of them. The last5 set of scales I participated in developing was a 20 man year effort, well we sold 820,000 of them.

Good luck,

Erik

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Load Cell            01/01/70 00:00      
   24 bits            01/01/70 00:00      
   Load Cells            01/01/70 00:00      
      Alex            01/01/70 00:00      
         Alexandria library            01/01/70 00:00      
         All Wlcome in alex            01/01/70 00:00      
      opamp            01/01/70 00:00      
         re: opAmp            01/01/70 00:00      
            averaging how long? and noamp!            01/01/70 00:00      
            resume            01/01/70 00:00      
               resume opamps            01/01/70 00:00      
                  NO WAY            01/01/70 00:00      
               Already answered            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Really?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, really!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        not agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                           you are fully right            01/01/70 00:00      
                              why use opamp?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Too specific?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not too specific            01/01/70 00:00      
                           What the hell...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              nothing wrong, just old, dont be angry            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 But, what's wrong with "old"??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    You should know that, Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       shame for me,agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       How incredibly stupid to call a 1982's ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          were it only so well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             You are sooo right...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Bob Pease            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   I religously agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Pease = God?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I should add            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 AC Excitation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    We Became 3 persons            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    AC excitation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       100 nv ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       100 nv ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          100nV            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Weighing lore            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Looks exactly like VLF noise!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             to: Kai Klaas            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Lock-in uses AC excitation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             AC Excitation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Artefacts            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          not 100nV            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             ADCs            01/01/70 00:00      
      probably?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Is "hysteresis" specified for your load cell?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why dont you answer my question?            01/01/70 00:00      
         even nastier            01/01/70 00:00      
            Mechanical issues            01/01/70 00:00      
               Mech ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         i thought in that            01/01/70 00:00      
   to stefen and eric            01/01/70 00:00      
      And Load Cell type            01/01/70 00:00      
         send to me datasheet of loadcell            01/01/70 00:00      
   a load of stuff on loadcells            01/01/70 00:00      
   The Author            01/01/70 00:00      
      Variation            01/01/70 00:00      
         11bit from 24 bit            01/01/70 00:00      
         Davids answer woefully incomplete            01/01/70 00:00      
      "constant power supply of 15 mv" ???            01/01/70 00:00      
         kind of that power supply            01/01/70 00:00      
            bad experiment            01/01/70 00:00      
      another experiment            01/01/70 00:00      
         CS5532 comparison            01/01/70 00:00      
            30 kg to 3.5g is NOT 1:100,000 it is 1:8,000            01/01/70 00:00      
               yes and not            01/01/70 00:00      
               Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                  David , what broadband he uses?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  there must be some misunderstanding here            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Simulator            01/01/70 00:00      
                        oh,            01/01/70 00:00      
      You misunderstood something!!            01/01/70 00:00      
         im sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
      Common mode input voltage range is violated!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Please modify your user profile,...            01/01/70 00:00      
      User profile            01/01/70 00:00      
         Haha...            01/01/70 00:00      
      ok I updated my profile            01/01/70 00:00      

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