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01/12/07 22:03
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#130751 - Sorry Datasheet is different for what I am saying
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The 89C2051 datasheet says Iol is limited to 10mA per port
line and one drive LED directly.
This may be different for 89c51 or other micros.
Also it is not good scare novice person with some
irrevelent assuptions.


You must take care: The TB62726 is a serial shift register and needs sharp edges and stable signals at its inputs. So, don't feed these inputs by port0 lines! Take another port for this, maybe port1.

Kai KLASS


From TB62726 datasheet I found following Input specifications:
Input signal voltage level: 3.3-V and 5-V CMOS level (Schmitt
trigger input)
Max clock rise time = 5uS.
Other propogation delays ETC are appx 300nS.

Hazman has pullup resistor of 1Kohm so risetime is
1x10^3 x 30 x 10^-12 = 30 x 10^-9 i.e. 30nS. where 30pf
is assumed of micro + TB pin capacitance.
Therefore this well acceptable even for critical TTL devices.
I use 4.7K as pullup which is many manufacturers are recommending taking in view the economy of current supply and
AC timing.
It is not good to scare Hazman for using port0 if he wants
to. All he has to adhere to basics and most importantly devices
being used.
It is always good policy to limit LED current with serries
resistor rather than rely on other devices. I have found people
making multiplexed LED displays with 2051micros using 33ohms in
5V circuits. In other circumstances this would drive about
3.2/.033 = appx 100mA ! But no! The LEDs draw only 20mA per segment! When I raised the resistor value to 150 ohms same
intensity was seen. One should note that micro was running
cooler then. I am not sure about 89c51 device. I have seen
that peole use rather ULN 2803 for that purpose.
Hope that point is understood.
1. There is no harm in using port 0 with proper pull ups
2. Certain micros are (Including many from Microchip) designed
for direct driving LEDs as their current sinking capacity
is limited to 10~20mA.


List of 62 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
how can i use port 0 as output            01/01/70 00:00      
   read            01/01/70 00:00      
      not quite understand            01/01/70 00:00      
         READ            01/01/70 00:00      
            i'm blur            01/01/70 00:00      
               it is a \'1\', but not a \'high\'            01/01/70 00:00      
         Port 0 is open drain            01/01/70 00:00      
            connection between u-c with pull up?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Basics            01/01/70 00:00      
                  typo            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Doh!            01/01/70 00:00      
               The answer is...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sinking and Sourcing            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Correct!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  sending data using port 0?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                        LED display driver            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Port1 is better than port0 for this            01/01/70 00:00      
                              is it right like this?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 NO            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Where is the TB62726 in your circuit??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    stiil stuck with port0            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       help me plz            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          drop the cute stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    connections right or not?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Hallelujah!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I already did            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       No            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Looks like a point of confusion            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It is not Right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Looks like total confusion!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       looks like?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    confused..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       That is Right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       the schematic is fine, BUT            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       You have damaged the micro!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    my assumption right now            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       basics            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Deja Vu            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Wyh not?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             the difference is            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       See my recent post.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          why not ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          No, you're wrong ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't remove your earlier schematics!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      RightO            01/01/70 00:00      
         a good way to burn the port pin (and the LED)            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry Datasheet is different for what I am saying            01/01/70 00:00      
               NO, nada, niente, never, nie, non,, aldrig            01/01/70 00:00      
               Hair-raising...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Completely Incorrect!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  In practice..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Please read specs properly            01/01/70 00:00      
                        What has survived your "tests" must be correct?            01/01/70 00:00      
      diagram attached            01/01/70 00:00      
         Connections are not correct!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Modifications            01/01/70 00:00      
      PWM without using 8051-Timer            01/01/70 00:00      
         New Topic; New Thread            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
         the usual question            01/01/70 00:00      

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