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04/15/06 21:55
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#114322 - Do you like BEagle?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
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Of all the integrated schematic/pcb packages I've encountered, none, including many that are free, is worse. A job that takes less than twenty minutes including drawing the schematic, building the symbols and footprints, and placing and routing the PCB in the old, pre-Windows OrCAD software, takes a week or more in BEagle. Further, it is totally unsuited for team-based design, i.e. one guy does the circuit design, another does the PCB design, and just as unsuited for work with other schematic packages.

Eagle is the absolute worst schematic package I've encountered in my 40-plus years of Computer-Aided-Engineering work, first of all because its library organization is dreadful, separate, and largely limited to what the authors could get for free from their victims, and secondly because it has no means of importing or exporting essential information to/from other packages, not that one might often like to do so.

Protel has many of the same weaknesses, i.e. its libraries are generations out of date, incompatible with other packages, and difficult to manage.

Windows-based OrCAD also has many of these same weaknesses, i.e. you have to know which library contains what you want, else you won't know how to tell the software to "look" there. All Windows-based packages seem to break down in the sense that if you want a 74HC154, and the software doesn't know it exists, you have to tell it which library might contain that part. Most of 'em don't know it exists at all.

Windows-based schematic packages seem to be awful at best, and dreadfully slow, owing mostly to their mouse-based approach. Too bad they can't learn from the old DOS-based software.

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List of 38 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
TSSOP28 footprint for Protel 2.7 PCB            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why not design the footprint yourself?            01/01/70 00:00      
      You want to try it with fricking eagle            01/01/70 00:00      
         Do you like BEagle?            01/01/70 00:00      
            pcad            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, I've got it right here            01/01/70 00:00      
                  FPGA libraries in general            01/01/70 00:00      
            Protel            01/01/70 00:00      
               I'm spoiled            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Protel for DOS            01/01/70 00:00      
            a simple workaround            01/01/70 00:00      
            Eagle            01/01/70 00:00      
               what            01/01/70 00:00      
                  BOMs from schematics            01/01/70 00:00      
                     a good idea with problems            01/01/70 00:00      
                        problems have solutions            01/01/70 00:00      
                           agreed, as I tried to convey            01/01/70 00:00      
            WOW            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, about five IC's            01/01/70 00:00      
                  OK, now it makes sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Well, how would you do it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        tell it all when first posting            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Erik, you're doing it again ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              naah            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Well, OK, it's your choice ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I actually consider that a disadvantage            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It's a matter of preference, perhaps            01/01/70 00:00      
         There are more than one fish in the sea            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's still much too slow to be useful            01/01/70 00:00      
               In the olden days I worked with DOS ORCA            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's the plague of Windows            01/01/70 00:00      
                     take the bitter with the sweet            01/01/70 00:00      
                     keyboard shortcuts and toolbars            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I've just got to disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Are you in the mood for another?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Nah....no menu's            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that is rarely an option            01/01/70 00:00      
                           it's no better if you're independent            01/01/70 00:00      

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