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02/19/06 02:04
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#110284 - you've got choices to make ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
You asked,

"When you say any one MCU would be better, would that take into account that the second of the small MCUs would be shut-down after startup?"

and I'd say that's still up in the air. If you have a way of completely powering the thing down, then, not necessarily. However, IF (and it's a big IF) you can find a "prototypable" MCU with enough pins at a coarse enough pitch that you can (A) meet all your requirements, and (B) see well enough to solder to the pins or do whatever else you might have to do to connect the thing to the rest of your circuitry, then that might be the path for you.

The 4000-series CMOS solution to your switch scanning issue, as recommended by Charles Bannister is workable and VERY stingy with power. If you power-down or idle your MCU each time a button is pushed, at least for a short time, and operate it as slowly as you can afford, perhaps in the 100 KHz range, you won't use much power. There's timing that you can do with other external logic that will let your MCU sleep, but, you have to trade off the cost of the extra logic + board space, against pins, however you get them.

You go on,
"My proposed development is as follows:
-- develop by trial and error on the PJRC 8052 board with an attached plug-in breadboard (0.100" spacing). I would not be using the 82C55 I/O Chips."

I'm not one who believes using those is a deadly sin. In fact, given that you have effective drivers, provided by the board maker, and that there's still a source (Toshiba) of 82C55's, AND that you'll be operating slowly enough that any 8255, even the slowest, will work, I'd say it's a good idea, provided you don't get too attached to them. Using 8255's is pretty much like using on-chip I/O once you're set up.

" -- optionally wire-wrap a prototype."

a good idea if you can stick to CMOS hardware, i.e. no form of bipolar logic, at all, EVER! since you're battery-powered.

" -- get some PCBs made."

well, that's up to you. I'd concentrate on the packaging problems first, since that often is a bigger problem than PCB design. You'll probably want a WOODEN box, so it looks and feels like the "classic" chess clock. Putting the batteries in the bottom will put the weight in the right place. I'm not sure what you're doing with those rotary switches, so I don't know where you'll want to put 'em. What other features have not been mentioned yet?

" -- if all the world comes saying "sell me one of your wonderful chess clocks" then I might think about hiring a student to stuff a hundred more PCBs."

that would be nice.

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List of 35 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Multiplex BCD Rotary Switch Input?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thumbwheels or ROTARY?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Rotaries            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why not            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why not leave it out?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Proposed Development            01/01/70 00:00      
            you've got choices to make ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               re choices ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The obvious...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     re: The Obvious            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What's the deal with the switches?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     re: switches            01/01/70 00:00      
                        What???            01/01/70 00:00      
                           re switches            01/01/70 00:00      
                              distributors only care about quantity            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 save with sharing HD44780s?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    If you can live with the load            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Re living with the load            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          it's still YOUR project            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             re MY project            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                not the ides, the implementation and the            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Over-view            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Maybe it's the type of switch ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Thanks guys and 'bye for now            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Or just start small            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Take it for what it's worth.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   continuing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Smart            01/01/70 00:00      
                        have you considered            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That was something he DIDN'T want            01/01/70 00:00      
            Options            01/01/70 00:00      
               If I wanted to buy a chess clock            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re chess clocks            01/01/70 00:00      
                     practice mode            01/01/70 00:00      
   cd4021_cd4094 shift registers            01/01/70 00:00      

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