| ??? 06/20/05 13:00 Read: times |
#95346 - T51 limitations Responding to: ???'s previous message |
http://www.e.kth.se/~e93_daw/vhdl/download/T51_0148.zip -> I8052.vhd said: -- Limitations :
-- Most ports, peripherals, registers and interrupts are missing http://www.e.kth.se/~e93_daw/vhdl/download/T51_0148.zip -> T51.vhd said:
-- Limitations :
-- No MUL, no DIV, no external RAM memory, only one interrupt Hummmmmm... OK, one cannot have everything, especially for free :-) I expect that with commercial core (or if I pay Jez the "vast amounts of cash" :-) I get it all. However, I still feel, that this would not yield a complete hi-speed microcontroller. Usually, there is no real ROM (notabene FLASH) inside FPGAs. For >33MHz 1-clock operation, the trick is to (pre)fetch in parallel. That means to have attached a 16- or 32-bit wide FLASH (and memory interface) and the appropriate logic inside the (soft)core. To reduce penalty from missing pre-fetch when jumping, they also implement jump-caches, an another feature to be added. So the implementation seems to be much more complicated task than to write a functional core. Still, my question, what is the advantage of a single-chip solution (either Zylogic or FPGA+softcore) over the two-chip '51+FPGA? Jan Waclawek |
| Topic | Author | Date |
| ASIC '51s and speed | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Zylogic? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| probably not | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| why not look.. | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Details please? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Details | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| T51 limitations | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| t51 limitations,not quite | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| so running from RAM | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| TCL and all that | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| other case, probabl same answer | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| very interesting! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Advantages of single-chip | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Fundamental flaw | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Final thought | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| use two | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| better one superfast | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Pitfall? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Multi cpu pitfalls | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Hardware delegation? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| 2 questions | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Why are you obsesed with zylogic? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Obsessed? moi! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| well | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| Thanks, but no thanks | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| uPSD | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| sorry, no | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
| FYI - Hitex 8051 SoC kit | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
nice, will check | 01/01/70 00:00 |



