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12/10/07 22:18
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#148059 - it looked as though he wants a production tool
Responding to: ???'s previous message
ISP, viewed from the production standpoint is a slow and therefore costly method of programming. While it's invaluable for field fixes, upgrades, etc, for manufacturing it's a millstone about one's neck.

Further, if a different tool is needed for ISP'ing each variant one uses, one quickly has a box full of programmers. That's why people like "universal" (they seldom are) programmers.

I've seen several of these "universal" programmers that actually use serial programming to handle newer and serial-compatible parts over the past 15 years or so.

If one were to think "parallel programmer" and "ISP" at the same time, one could implement a relatively flexible set of hardware, but making the software work with it might be a mite tricky. A "configuration plug" approach in which one applies a labelled plug to a universal socket of, say, up to 68 pins might be workable. One would insert the configuration plug between the parallel port or serial port and the on-board hardware such that the signals are appropriately routed. That way one would have a single device that handles multiple devices. That would allow for multiple programming circuits to be combined into a single device.

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TopicAuthorDate
Universal programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
   with lots of circuitry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Programble hardware            01/01/70 00:00      
      possibly, but what good would that do you ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, but not a the required voltages and currents            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yep FPGA is involved            01/01/70 00:00      
   Recently discussed...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Falling at the first hurdle            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE:Falling at the first hurdle            01/01/70 00:00      
         communication            01/01/70 00:00      
         If you need to ask the question...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Oops - replied to wrong message.            01/01/70 00:00      
   This isn't so ... It's true only at the "low-end".            01/01/70 00:00      
      is the new algorithms on the web?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, I got them indirectly from the www            01/01/70 00:00      
   pipedreams            01/01/70 00:00      
   Tube tester vs Universal programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
      that's totally crazy            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel ICSP or..            01/01/70 00:00      
            one more - these pop up every darn time            01/01/70 00:00      
               Universaly Blocked            01/01/70 00:00      
                  trying new things out?.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Think a bit Deeper            01/01/70 00:00      
                        staying on the subject            01/01/70 00:00      
         some words about semantics            01/01/70 00:00      
            what is a "KANDA cable"            01/01/70 00:00      
               KANDA cable is            01/01/70 00:00      
   Does it intended...            01/01/70 00:00      
      consider the device's role            01/01/70 00:00      
      what a surprise            01/01/70 00:00      
   bravo for ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
   You have to narrow the scope            01/01/70 00:00      
      Conclusions            01/01/70 00:00      
         just adding to the complexity            01/01/70 00:00      
         it looked as though he wants a production tool            01/01/70 00:00      

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