| Getting Started With FPGAs       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    A Book       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Proceed with caution!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    This is quite a nice deveolpment board       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    I like this board       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       I\'ve got one of these and can\'t recommend it       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          What are you talking about       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Let me explain ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    generaly speaking       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       Damn, Jez, you need a spell-checker!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          HDL-based design needs TEST BENCHES       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             I use 'em all the time, but ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                If your design is so simple       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   What\'s important is the entry effort       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      I dunno where you get these ideas from Richard       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         Can you say ModelSim?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      Wrong       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         Well, the schematic needs a little work       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            more work?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               a few points ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      HDL vs Schematics, take 1E6       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         Thta may be great comfort to you ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            Schematics? You're kidding!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               No, nor is my customer.       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               both are a 'representation of Boole'       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  Yep, you're right...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                     To Clarify       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                        schematic as equivalence check       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           Manual verification impossible because ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                              schematic verification       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                        Some more clarification       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           hanging problem       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                              so will your post be       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                     it's not fear of the unknown, but fear of its cost       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            Static Timing Analysis and those "young engineers"       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               It's a sign of the times, I suppose       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  And times change       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  senior?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                     That's because you've been avoiding the subject       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             I agree entirely. test benches are a pain but       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Update from the OP       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       It's true ... we see things differently       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       the first buuk for any such venture       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       FPGA boards and that Cypress book       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          This may answer your question(s)       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    some of the references in the fpga faq       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       Good attitude       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Also remeber to look at webistes like www.xilinx.c       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    My recommendation and opinions       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       I would stay away from Virtex-II       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          If you're going to fiddle with the 805x core ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Something about life-cycles       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                No doubt about it.       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   useful work       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      Well, I beg to differ.       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         salient point       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            There's an area where that's not necessarily true       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            FPGA Editor       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Not necessarily       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                It's still too costly       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Thanks to all       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Update #2 from the OP       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    A testbench is...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       I C       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          test bench       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Makes sense       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Yeah but...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Tristate buffer with propagation delays       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Schematics vs. HDL       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       In a nutshell       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          it\'s been a while       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       Yes, but ... and there's always a but ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Yep you can its called gate level design       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Its really nothing to do with showing off       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       did you paraphrase this?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       Jez, It\'s not \"sea of gates\" design, you know ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          Richards, it is there philosophy       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          Viewlogic       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    it is true       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
   Here you go Richard graphical design exploration        |        | 01/01/70 00:00       |