| So What Is An 8051/2 Good For?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    thoughts       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       The Future of the 805x       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          PARC       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Bigger Hammers       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                re: Bigger Hammers       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                The opposite problem seems more common here!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          Would Toyota have had the problem if ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Toyota: Case in point       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             RE: Toyota       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                It was a mechanical fix ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Parallel Processing       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                Sometimes the practical reality is of little consequence       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   Totally Agree, but I was looking for a magic bullet       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   RE: "outperform"       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      There are some operations ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         rephrased       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         Now, you are extrapolating       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            good points, but       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               How many 8051 chips uses 0.13u?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  not yet       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            not exactly ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               Do not get focused on one operation...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               any 8-bit instruction can exist in a 32-bit processor       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  Yes, but does it?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                     So have you looked at any other processors?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                        not a point of disagreement, but you missed it anyway       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           A good point       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                              beg to differ       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                              Disagree entirely!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           Yes, auto-increment/decrement is standard and not "feature"       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                              What I wanted to point out ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                                 Same same all the time. no "one size fits".       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                                    and the most important point is (drumroll) ....       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                                 Comparing Apples to Oranges       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           Prices are comparable       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                Parallel processing       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   Sweeping generalisation!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      Not a magic silver bullit       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         Fond memories       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         A magic bullet       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            Most concepts already exists in the wild       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            Another generalisation       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            Speed vs latency       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               Why 8051?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  Isn't it obvious?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                     ARM simpler than 8051       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                        Generalisation       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           ARM 'MCUs' have their limitations too!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                              You normally engineer with a backup plan       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                     No, it's not!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                        Im just trying to provide an argument       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           x bits are just one parameter among many       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                              Avoiding the issue       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                                 Avoiding what issue?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           They say it because it's true!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                           RE: ARM is not the only 32-bitter       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                     Please don'g generalize       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  Heterogenous multiprocessing widespread       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   Re: Multicore 8051       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      ALU chaining       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    Well... maybe       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       A Linear Accelerator?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          Its one of these       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       please, repeat       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          All I was saying was       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    So what the '51 are good for...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       Not terribly helpful       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          Always up to the developers       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             RE: The manufacturers tells us...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                Sales - "may be used for" presented as "recommended"       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                pretty hot, low-power and small       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   Automotive...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          but answers your original question (at least the one...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          MCS51 still rocking !!!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Scale       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|             Missing the point       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                Impossible to generalize into fields       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   An appropriate generalisation...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                You are right..Andy Neil       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   Cheers!       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      No..only AT89C52 can be used       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         why do you insist on Atmel?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         what a strange post       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         Tools?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            Multiple manufactuers with (almost) identical chips       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               Getting better       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                                  Unified interrupt controller is really great       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            Yes, even with free tools for PIC/AVR       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               I mean no offense, but ...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                               Similar difficulties coming to 8051/2?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
                                 Same same        |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   Is it your purchase price or why so sure AVR or PIC are off?       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      Answer to Per and Erik...       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                   Living in the past       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      Thanks John D. Maniraj       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                      locking       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         RE: Locking       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                         Agreed, but       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|                            fairly easy       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|       Don't forget consumer devices       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|          A perfect application       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    8051 vs ARM       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       | 
|    just thought of one case       |        | 01/01/70 00:00       |